now backed by allstate. click or call. >> bret: you heard about the harm some women suffered at kermit gosnell's women's medical society. those injuries, those deaths all unintentional. not so witnesses say in the case of babies born alive in the clinic. >> he was inducing labor and he was having these women deliver babies and deliver fe fetuses. >> the witnesses testified the means by which the baby's lives were taken wasn't a traditional type of abortion procedure. they were drugged up and birth induce and once the baby left the mother's body taking its first breath at that point that is how this doctor elected to kill these babies. >> he had a process that he referred to as snipping that the children would be born alive and that they would then take scissors and place them at the base of the skull and snip or sever the spinal cord of those children that were born alive. >> this is a very, very painful thing. and some of these babies did not die immediately. >> those aren't botched abortions. that is homic